redrabid wrote:Hi, Psychy, good topic.
I wrote a reply, but when I posted it, it disappeared into the void.
Maybe sometime the next few days I'll try to reconstruct it.
But Stoned Circus? That band doesn't even come close to JA: No bass-player that carries the band, no soaring vocalists ( the main defining characteristics of JA). Just another very mediocre psychedelic band with girls.
I like( well, not really) Shocking Blue "Venus" better. At least their lead singer had what Rolling Stone described as a "stiff Grace Slick style".
A deadringer for Grace Slick?: Listen to " The United States Of America". This band had a leadsinger called Dorothy Moskowics. Awesome singer, a mix of JA's Signe and Grace. But in the song "Hard Coming Love" she sounds more like Grace than any female singer after. The band doesn't sound like JA at all. It is an under-appreciated pioneering synthyband (1968/69).
redrabid wrote:Sorry, Psychy.
I just didn't have the time.
But I'm going on vacation (3 weeks, Turkey), so that must give me time enough to reconstruct it.
Maybe a shortened version. The original one was quite long.
Susan Butcher wrote:The closest JA imitators I know of are The Group Image, who put out one album in 1968, "A Mouth In The Clouds". It's not bad - better than "Bark", anyway!
redrabid wrote:Hi, Psychy!
I stayed a bit longer than planned. Too much fun.
No revolution going in Turkey, I can assure you.
Most people still support the government of Erdogan. The reason is that his government broke the paralyzing grip on the economy of the old industrial elite whose interests were always defended by all Kemalist/secular governments (including those led by the "socialist" party) since ca.1920 (not to mention the coups by the army). Thanks to the AK (the islamic/democratic?) party, that wanted, dared and was able to confront the old power elite, much more people gained access to health care, education and economic opportunities, which created the supprising rise of Turkey as an economical power in the Middle East.
And that was about time, because, as an Australian working for an Turkish organisation once told me, Turkey is one of the few countries in the world that is completely autarchish. Except for oil!
The decisions of Erdogan these year concerning the Gezi Park, alcohol (Ayran, a yoghurt drink must become the national drink) and abortion (every Turkish woman must give birth to at least 3 children) and public morality (no kissing on the street) show a disturbing shift towards nationalistic/fundamentalistic politics. Of course the old priviliged elite saw the opportunity to attack Erdogan. But also a new much more important power in Turkey showed its face: The urban, not so moslim anymore, youth that is looking towards the West in search of personal freedom despite all governmental retoric.
In Antalya, where I stayed, the AK party doesn't have the majority. The demonstrations were like carnaval. The mayor didn't allow the police to use the city's water supply for their water cannons.
So I had a great vacation, had lots of "seventies" politcal discussions and my Turish is getting better!
Now, if I can lecture you on Turkish politics, I should be able to explain why bands sounding like JA just don't exist(ed), don't you think?
redrabid wrote:Of course the media in the West gave a sensational report of the demonstrations in Turkey, but mainly in Istanbul and Ankara it came to violent confrontation because of the aggresive actions of the police against what were originally peaceful demonstrations. But the presence and actions of the police attracted a lot of hooligans who are always in for a bit of recreational violence. And that gave the government the stick to beat the demonstrators. " They drank alcohol, had group sex in the mosk" etc.. Yes there is an important clash between different sections of society, but it is more complicated than simplistic coverage in Western media AND Turkish governmental suppressed media wanted you to believe.
Yes Ozzie B. did exist. No one even in the Middle East doubts that. There was at the time of his death a really nice cartoon in a Turkish paper. I wrote of this before (hi Susan) but in this context I'll retell it again.
Two sharks are watching a wrapped Ozzie B. sinking to the bottom of the sea. Says one shark to the other: "Is it halal?".
"No, I don't think so".
I'm not a conspiritard.
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