EmbryonicRabbit68 wrote:Why does everything have to deal with the Nazis? They were fucked up, they were vile murderous bugs and thankfully are now gone. I didn't say "don't use the word freedom for freedom", I just meant that if you're going to use it, use it carefully and make sure you're using it correctly, but that's not to limit freedom of speech either. "Work makes you free" is very (extremely) obviously the wrong way to use it.
And if a fascist wants to believe that freedom is working a person to death, fine, whatever, be a sick individual. It's going to bite you in the ass one day anyway, WW2 is an example of that. There are evils in this world that are just going to happen, so it takes somebody to do something about it to stop those evils. Whether freedom is involved or not doesn't matter, what matters is if you're doing the right thing. That's why freedom should be left out of question.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I love how you all (except you, ER) are talking about the definition of freedom, and at the same time are putting restrictions on it's meaning.
Freedom, as I said in another topic, has become a selling point. It's obvious the Nazi's used the selling point as a form of brainwashing. That has NOTHING to do with freedom, or it's definition, at all. It's about fucked up assholes who wanted a scapegoat for all the problems that had been going on in Germany during and after WW1 (yes, I do my research, especially as someone who owns & wears a Star of David necklace all the time).
Freedom is a very versatile word. It has many meanings, both good and bad, that can be changed depending on the person you're talking about. Freedom is a word meaning "the power to act or speak or think without externally imposed restraints". It's funny that people are giving it a definition or restraints in the first place. Freedom should be free - variable definition going from person to person.