Oh - you will find that one quite strong!
Yes - Paulaner, Hacker- Pschorr, Spaten "Optimator" (Double Shovel) - thick stuff, and supremely yummy!
Are you familiar with Dock Street "Illuminator" - from the Philly area, I seem to recall? Best U.S. microbrew, hands down!!
It's good times now - I can see the light!