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Surrealistic Pillow

Postby White Rabbit on Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:19 pm

Jerry Garcia, when he mentioned that, as a whole, the album sounded "as Surrealistic as a pillow" is destined to hold for all time as one of the best examples of Psychedelic rock of Jefferson Airplane and made Grace Slick a living legend.

The 1967 LP Surrealistic Pillow is still widely regarded as one of the key recordings of the so-called "Summer of Love."

It is truley rare that all things come together as the did so magically as they did for the Jefferson Airplane on Surrealistic Pillow. I put it up there with landing on the moon.
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Postby Dormouse on Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:34 pm

Hi and welcome!!

I couldn't agree with you more on the impact and importance of Surrealistic Pillow! 1967 was the height of a lot of things, and I'm glad that the Airplane helped make it that way.

And I love your Orwell quote! :wink: :roll: :wink:
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Postby White Rabbit on Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:57 pm

Thank you for the welcome, glad you like the quote sad but true. 8)
Dormouse wrote:Hi and welcome!!

I couldn't agree with you more on the impact and importance of Surrealistic Pillow! 1967 was the height of a lot of things, and I'm glad that the Airplane helped make it that way.

And I love your Orwell quote! :wink: :roll: :wink:
They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality…. and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. George Orwell
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Postby White Rabbit on Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:59 pm

That's the way of most Forums. :(
Chasin-Destiny wrote:The BIGGEST shit is ;

There are >1000 members !
But were are they ??????

This forum is 100% like the Airplane !
It is there... like the records of the Airplane...
It needs fuel to fly !!!

If the fans (people who like the Airplane) don't
show up here, this forum could disappear...

YOU should know / remember this ;

This forum is on-line because of a very nice person !
Roman from Eden marketing...

http://www.edenmarketing.com/web_design ... tfolio.php


They did create web site for ;

Jack Casady...
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Jorma Kaukonen...
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(The band from Jorma & Jack)
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Jorma Kaukonen...
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Postby Rüdi on Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:49 am

Hello White Rabitt,
nice you are "on board"

You can read something about my impression of Surr.Pillow some threads down below. I got the CD 6 weeks ago.

Did anyone knows, if or which things there are really from garcia on this LP?
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Re: Surrealistic Pillow

Postby Liquid Crystal on Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:33 am

White Rabbit wrote:Jerry Garcia, when he mentioned that, as a whole, the album sounded "as Surrealistic as a pillow" is destined to hold for all time as one of the best examples of Psychedelic rock of Jefferson Airplane and made Grace Slick a living legend.

The 1967 LP Surrealistic Pillow is still widely regarded as one of the key recordings of the so-called "Summer of Love."

It is truley rare that all things come together as the did so magically as they did for the Jefferson Airplane on Surrealistic Pillow. I put it up there with landing on the moon.


Well hey, 'Frisco WAS where the summer of love was happening, and with JA being the biggest band in the city, they had it to themselves:)

I'll bet that they (and probably The Doors as well) were a bit frustrated to have released such a great album, then have to watch Sergeant Pepper run over everything else on the charts that year.

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Re: Surrealistic Pillow

Postby oldblue on Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:19 pm

the summer of love was an end not a beginning

RELIX: When did you start to see a scene taking shape?

MARTY: There was a scene there, it just wasn't formed. As soon as everyone started doing something there were all these people suddenly, like light people, rock people, managers, and suddenly they were a scene. I remember it was really pretty and beautiful for a year or two and then Time magazine came out and they were interviewing me. I told the guy, "It's great that you're publicizing this beautiful-feeling scene out here," and he looked me right in the eye and said, "Fastest way to kill it."
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Re: surrealistic pillow

Postby oldblue on Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:11 pm

Rüdi wrote:Hello White Rabitt,
nice you are "on board"

You can read something about my impression of Surr.Pillow some threads down below. I got the CD 6 weeks ago.

Did anyone knows, if or which things there are really from garcia on this LP?


The recording sessions for Surrealistic Pillow started in early November 1966 just over two weeks after Grace Slick had made her first appearance with the band on October 16, 1966.

Garcia's contribution to Surrealistic Pillow is not easy to define exactly. The album was recorded in Los Angeles. Jefferson Airplane and Garcia were based in San Francisco. The band flew back and forth between the two cities throughout November 1966 and it seems that Garcia flew with them whenever available.

His playing contribution is partly documented.

He was definitely present on Wednesday November 2 playing lead guitar on Today.

He was present on an unspecified date for the recording of Comin' Back To Me. According to Marty Balin who wrote the song one night in his LA motel room during the period of the recording sessions...

"Then I went back to the studio - 'cause we used to stay up all night - and the engineer, Grace, Jack and Garcia were still there. So I said, 'I'd like to record this please'."
It was rehearsed a couple of times and then recorded in one take.
He was present during, and played on, the recording of two songs that didn't make the final album but were subsequently released in 1974 on Early Flight; J.P.P. McStep B. Blues (Monday, November 14) and In The Morning (Monday, November 21).

Some sources suggest that Garcia was also played on Plastic Fantastic Lover and My Best Friend. To date this remains speculation - any information about documented sources describing other Garcia involvement on this album would be most welcome.

Garcia's non-playing role ("musical and spiritual adviser") can be assumed from statements made by members of Jefferson Airplane.

According to Jorma Kaukonen;

"Jerry could be credited with really being the producer in the real sense of the word in that he was one of us and he knew what to do with the band .... He really was the producer who arranged those songs..."
Paul Kantner in an interview with Dark Star magazine in the late 1970s said;
"We had an RCA producer, but Garcia did the art side of it."
Garcia on the other hand downplayed his role, defining it at one time as;
"... a sort of go-between between them and their producer, I helped out with some arrangements and stuff - I just hung out."
On the Surrealistic Pillow cover though Garcia is credited as their "musical and spiritual adviser". No other credit was possible as prior to the release of the LP the Grateful Dead had signed with Warner Brothers.
Most versions of the 'how the album got it's title' story indicate that it was Garcia who suggested at one point that it was "as surrealistic as a pillow". The quote has though been attributed to others.

The album reached third position in Billboard's album charts and was the sixth best selling LP of 1967 in the US.
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