what do you think of this quote?

[redrabid]

Do you really see fascism coming to America? Fascism implies a strong state. The american right seems to be intent on dissolving the state, in an attempt to recreate the legendary Wild, Wild West.

[oldblue]

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thanx makes my " Proud To Be Dutch " even more stronger !
......and my love for Germany to !

Just to let you know, Adolf Hitler and his friends did a LOT of good things for the
German economy before he did start WW2. Volks Wagen is part of his idea to have
a car for every one in Germany, VW = Volkswagen = Car for the people. The Beetle !
The German autobahn did get better then ever because of Adolf Hitler etc etc.

The story of VW (Volkswagen) ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen

yes those panzer divisions looked pretty good rolling down the autobahn; sorry but there is no defense possible for hitler. preparing for war can help any economy

[usedtobebabson]

I thought the Wild Wild West stuff, and internet spying like on what everyone googles for were Bush isms. Did Obama continue these policies also? Don't know.
No one who grew up in the computer industry in America stakes any claims to the computer or internet. Although Gates did steal DOS from Seattle computer (small company), then buried them in their lawsuit of usoft and the internet did come from DARPA (the Government funded project), though I'm not sure what country Mosaic came from, as it was the firewall proxying browser or web surfer that really opened up the internet. In general people from all over the world were involved.
As for Facism, I thought that was where you couldn't get a job unless it was for the Government. Police, military, administration, government employee, computer admin, turning in yer neighbor, etc. You're other choice would be the bread line. Longhairs need not apply...

[redrabid]

Don't you think, like I do, OB, that this topic needs an excorsist?
I only know one spell. It is supposed to cure horses of worms. Somehow I find that very appropiate. So let me try it:
"Gang ut, nesso, gang ut".

[redrabid]

As you see, OB, the spell doesn't work. It was to be expected of course. In order to be able to expel an evil you have to know its true name (as an old fairytale "Rumpelstilchen" learns us). Do you, or anyone else out there, have any suggestions what it might be?

[redrabid]

Do you believe in predestination, OB?
If its true name is "hare", maybe one of us is "hunter".

[Susan Butcher]

Of course we're being spied on here. It's all part of the deal, much as I hate it. We're a commercial resource; like television, that's why we get the service almost free. Nothing to do with authoritarian government, though they do their share of spying, too.

[nicktecky]

RR:
You asked for a name:
Indifference and its prerequisite, ignorance.
The West has about 20 or so years of global hegemony left, then natural forces will take over and the Eurasian powers will assert their dominance. Russia, China and India (with a little Japan on the side). Once these powers have established their natural pre-eminence, the age of democracy will be over as a a global influence.
The question for us in the West is: what next? The price of freedom is perpetual vigilance, and it is now clear that the citizens of the West are not prepared to expend either the finance (through their taxes) or the time (through democratic engagement) to buy that freedom.
My own feeling is the the citizens of the West will get used to being secondary players in the world drama. Who knows, we may get to quite like it!
That's not to say that the politicians may have wiped us all out in the meantime!

[nicktecky]

RR:
You asked for a name:
Indifference and its prerequisite, ignorance.
The West has about 20 or so years of global hegemony left, then natural forces will take over and the Eurasian powers will assert their dominance. Russia, China and India (with a little Japan on the side). Once these powers have established their natural pre-eminence, the age of democracy will be over as a a global influence.
The question for us in the West is: what next? The price of freedom is perpetual vigilance, and it is now clear that the citizens of the West are not prepared to expend either the finance (through their taxes) or the time (through democratic engagement) to buy that freedom.
My own feeling is the the citizens of the West will get used to being secondary players in the world drama. Who knows, we may get to quite like it!
That's not to say that the politicians may have wiped us all out in the meantime!

[usedtobebabson]

I'm pretty good at predicting the past, if anybody's interested